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Here's an English space for my students. It's like a bridge between us. I was born to be a teacher.Thanks god for giving me gifts to learn and to teach.I would be in duty to plant the seeds of knowlegde and goodness in students' mind. Life is full of surprise so long as you're seeking. So, dear all, please remember no matter how low our English level is, we never give up trying and learning.

A conversation about China's education with Nina

2008-01-20 12:10:12 / 个人分类:my views on education

Last Friday night, Sherry, the PD of our department celebrated her contract comfirmed in our group at her house.

About twenty people from various countries gethered there enjoyed drinking and chatting.

And I had a chance to talk with Nina, who is Executive Vice Dean from Singapore. The conversation lasted more than two hours.

We shared each other's opinions on China's and oversea's educational system, principles of education, curriculum, teaching methodology, the disadvantage of china's education.

I asked," when China's socity can really compete with other developed countries?"
She answered, "you generation will not see it.
I was deep in thought after that...



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雨柔 删除 雨柔 发布于2008-04-19 15:47:16
Good article
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-03-23 20:47:30
to is4I,

If a boy speaks good english at age 70 not 17, then you should feel more confused than now...

Why young people can't speak good english?

By the way, Ray's english sucks!

So much Chinese-english shit.....takes me ages to guess what he means.....
is4l 删除 is4l 发布于2008-03-19 17:42:34
I dont know how old are ray,I feel underage,but with a good English for this age,confused me.
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-02-14 22:21:25
Just drop by..and see any left wings are here shouting his "Country Concept" or not....

Peaceful.....
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-02-05 19:23:35
Janelotus,

I actually saw your message before I went to Australia...somehow I was busy replying others' messages and I forgot about you....

Since Kathy has replied your concern, I don't want to say more....

By the way, are you the one who left messages in my blog and kept saying " I am here for a fuck!" months ago???

Geez~ ~ ~ Grow up....
RCU-ESL CLASSROOM 删除 kathy525 发布于2008-02-03 21:01:24
should be eveybody (not everything)here has a say...
RCU-ESL CLASSROOM 删除 kathy525 发布于2008-02-03 19:12:44
To janelotus,

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Kathy,don't you think they are making your place dirty? How can you still use this for your students?
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Everything has right to express his opinion here.They argue about a topic, though keen, they exchange ideas. It's no harm at all.

And my students are all more than 20 years old. It means they are old enough to have their own thought. I would like them to read all of these messages and make their own judgement.

Dirty? No, nobody here makes my space dirty. They made my topic hot and meaningful.
学会飞翔 删除 janelotus 发布于2008-02-03 10:49:19
Enough said, ladies and gentlemen.

Kathy,don't you think they are making your place dirty? How can you still use this for your students?
scoundrel1972的个人空间 删除 scoundrel1972 发布于2008-01-30 12:47:03
You lengthy arguement stunned me .
If  you are kind enough you may go to my blog and hear my voice on what you are arguing.
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-01-30 11:41:48
Ray, among Your 99% shits,

I did find sth which you wrote is a bit meaningful for me to pay attention to...

"What the started point is she should to take a felicitous way to face the problem in our educational system, then take some improving action at her site with what the shortcomings she have found and what she can carry out for now"

According to YOUR message,

I want to ask what kind of action is felicitous....

Let's say the current Chinese exam system has imposed hugh pressure on many young students...which lead to a higher suicide rate...

Now can you tell me: as a normal teacher, what can you do with this fact???

A teacher may have more than 60 students in each class.....Piggy has already worked from 5am to 10pm to guide and care about his students which leads to him leaving his own child at home alone....

This activities cannot fundamentally change the problem which I mentioned....

Then, lets' say piggy talking about this problem with me or any other foreighner....complaining he has been over worked but still couldn't save all the children...and also Chinese government pays public school teachers shitty money...

And according to your belief, what he has done has ashamed your Country...

But I don't think so...I think he is doinga right thing...if that's what he thinks....if that's what he has been treated by your government...why he can't say SO?????

Why he has to keep quiet at front of me and tell me all the fake happy stories in China???

So, once again, why a Chinese person should feel ashamed to complain about problems in CHina at front of us?????

WHY?
WHY?
WHY?

Attacting NZ cannot make China a better country.....to encourage your people to dare telling the truth to the public is the first priority to achieve democracy!!!!!!!!

Honestly, I feel glad to see you back but meanwhile I feel disappointed to see your messages because you are not arguing...you are only attacking me and NZ.....

Whatsoever, if attacting NZ can make you win in this argument, you have won....however, if your correct evidence and information can change my mind, you are a total loser....

You even got the truth wrong talking about that NZ sent their people to the war?????

God, you have been home-schooled so long and can't believe you can still use this incorrect information to support your argument???

If you are not trying to prove yourself as the biggest joke here, then why do you pick up wrong information??????

God, save it, cunty prick....you are far away to save your face back in Kathy's blog....      

And I want other voices....I don;t need to hear Kathy's voice...But I need to hear others...

As I said long time ago, I am here to find out exactly how Chinese think about some political issues and I want to know the true opinions from every single Chinese!!!!!!!
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-01-30 10:45:34
Okay, RAY.....

I know you have been working so hard to write so much shit....

Somehow, your shit doesn't attract me to argue with you because I don't argue with a piece of shit....

So I am not going to read your rest shit now....

Honestly, you too young and too home-schooled....

You wrote the whole of sentences about rights...So will that make everyone in China has better human rights???

Will these shit can solve the problems in China???

And you even don't know the world, babe...

Where did you get this idea that NZ sent people to the war to help Bush???

We did NOT and please read news and make sure it is not from your fucker-up government who brainwash you people....

Also, all you do is to give personal attact to me and NZ....however, that just won't piss me off because we still have a better life than you....

Okay, if you think China is the place to enjoy life, then please ask all your tourists and immigrants fuck bacl to China, then....we don't need Chinese here to ruin our environent especially morons like you....

However, I did like many people here such as PIGGY, KATHY, WuJun, Hugh....

Although we argues a lot together, but I respect those people because at least they have a brain to think properly....

Most Chinese at the beginning will not accept my words...because you guys ar very dry in real life and also very easily to get offended....

However, those Chinese people as I mentioned, they have a brain, they read what I wrote, then they think about it, then they realize all I have done to actually to help China develop....

But sadly, you are an exception.....

If you really want to win, why don't you ask some of your own people's opinions since so many (as you can see from the pictures) have come here and heard what you are arguing for.....

You go to ask them whether you have been home-schooled ot not....

You also ask them whether a Chinese person should feel ashamed to complain about problems in China at front of us........

Rights????

Mate, you may think you have but unfortunately you first of all need rights to hear true voices.....

And that's what we call democracy and that's also what we call "Human rights"!!!!!!!!!
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-01-30 10:28:23
Didn’t you know you were messed with all my arguments when I did to Kathy?
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Did I?!

At least, both Kathy and I think the same on your argument....

Plus, you write poor English...so I really don't what to guess on the shit you left.....
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-01-30 10:25:03
Also, see this one, everybody:

I asked:

If Kathy wants to change the English Text book tomorrow, will your dear fucked-up government allow her???

That's why RAY answered:

"If I live in NZ, I will change your education system and tell your kids to say ‘”FUCK YOU” and how to do a perfect “FUCK YOU” , and instead of your parents to do it for you."

Did he answer my question?

no.....

Did he try to tell me what he will do to improve your education system?

also no....

All he did is to drag the argument topic to the NZ education system....

Honestly, Ray, people like you are locked up in te mental home in NZ so you won't have chance to speak to our children....
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-01-30 10:21:06
She has been improving her teaching methods by communicating with us, babe!
What have you done?
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Thank you for you told what Kathy was doing. Hopefully her students can speak English as perfect as their Kathy teacher! I don’t know whether she spread it over the another subjects or not.
If she just did it for teaching English, I’d rather to study Portuguese than studying English. As I think Portuguese girl is pretty and sexy, i’d like to seek for one.
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See!

Everyone here can tell:

Ray is not even trying to argue with me....

I asked him "what has he done?"

Did he answer my question straight away??

No, he didn't....he somehow drags this topic to fuck Portuguese chicks now...

Why Portuguese girls want to fuck you since they have so many normal guys in their won country......
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-01-30 10:15:12
AIDS? What is AIDS? Why did you know the word but Chinese don’t? Do AIDS come to you everywhere and now and then?
I wanna ask you the other question, why did you guys need wearing a raincoat for their little stick while they did the performance with you?
They did just owing to so many AIDS around you. Is right?
If I got wrong with that , then Didn’t you know you and your guys would kill so many kids while you both did? What cruel human beings such like as you guys are!
   See you later in hell ......
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Okay Ray,  I found you are really slow in your brain...

You originally said to Kathy that you guys should stop talking about problems in China with usand all learn the problems through the past experience....well, that's my understanding of your message because your English does suck very much..

My following message mentioned about the AIDS....that is to tell you:

Some mistakes can never be corrected....so Chinese need to ask us our opinions in some aspects so that you don't make the mistakes which we have known about.....

Even your Confucian said: "There must be one who can be my teacher among three people..."

However, I have no idea why you pop out those non-related shit to beat my arguement ???

And you even ask me why wear condom??

Actually your Mother has told me the reason why: To prevent giving birth to a moron like you.....
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-01-30 10:08:56
AIDS? What is AIDS? Why did you know the word but Chinese don’t? Do AIDS come to you everywhere and now and then?
I wanna ask you the other question, why did you guys need wearing a raincoat for their little stick while they did the performance with you?
They did just owing to so many AIDS around you. Is right?
If I got wrong with that , then Didn’t you know you and your guys would kill so many kids while you both did? What cruel human beings such like as you guys are!
   See you later in hell ......
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Okay Ray,  I found you are really slow in your brain...

You originally said to Kathy that you guys should stop talking about problems in China with usand all learn the problems through the past experience....well, that's my understanding of your message because your English does suck very much..

My following message mentioned about the AIDS....that is to tell you:

Some mistakes can never be corrected....so Chinese need to ask us our opinions in some aspects so that you don't make the mistakes which we have known about.....

Even your Confucian said: "There must be one who can be my teacher among three people..."

However, I have no idea why you pop out those non-related shit to beat my arguement ???

And you even ask me why wear condom??

Actually your Mother has told me the reason why: To prevent giving birth to a moron like you.....
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-01-30 10:08:32
it took me for hours to skim through your most of articles this afternoon, what I found was a funny word in your articles, “FUCK” comes up on many occasion among of them.
How prolific of female hormone you have! Ok! I’d love to make gallant with a lady who just has prolific of female hormone.
So I’d love to go on with you. and I wanna take the same way as you did so that you can feel good.
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God, a Moron also  knows how to impress a lady....

If you mean "Fuck" makes me very feminist...I take it as a compliment...Thanks...

But since you use that word too before you read my article..so you must have too much Female hormones, too?!

Now you turn yourself a W E I R D O......

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I’d like to ask you as well what can you do for New Zealand?

Oh, we can do pretty much everything...we can go for a match and Helen sends Policemen to protect us....she is so mercy and even sent policemen to protect FuLunGongs when last time you Goverment Officials were trying to kick their asses on the street.....

Of course, since you are home-schooled, how will you know this news...but actually it is a kind of joke for all the Kiwis....

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no wander have I never heard a Kiwi to win the champion in the Olympic Games, and also, I have never heard you will kill Helen even if you said you disliked Helen’s policy on many occasions.

What the fuck to do with Olympic games now, moron?!

God, grow up, little prick.....If you arge like that, I will say: Fuck yeah! I can't win Olympic games...but we beat you guys to death in Rugby....and we also can't host Olympics but we are fucking cleaner than your fucked-up dirty country!!!

Do you want the argument to go on like this???

If you don't.....make sure you grow up, Cunt !
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and also, I have never heard you will kill Helen even if you said you disliked Helen’s policy on many occasions...

Now, I have to say your brain is different from a normal one...

What I meant in my original messges is that you guys can complain and talk about all the problems in China but cannot actually do much to change it fundamentally....That's why Kathy should complain and talk about those problems....

Oh, yes, you also mentioned some kind of "country concept".....Kathy loves her country but she just doesn't like your government and your education system....so why that makes her a person without your "country concept"....

Speaking of Helen, well, she will leave the government for a while this year in July because according to the latest survey, National will become the government soon....

I don't like Helen and I don't need to kill her to kick her out of government.....

But what can you do to your Communists????

Oh, I find you answer now, here it is:

"I’d love to tell you what a Chinese do just as same as you Kiwi does....."

Are you joking, man???

Geez.~~~~ your brain is full of come!!!

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Don’t you know the whoredom is the criminality in China, and being a hooker is illegal and no one Chinese girl to do it. But be frank with you, I knew the whoredom is the legal in New Zealand, So you Kiwi people have many of chance to fuck a hooker. I think that’s why so many people from other country who would like to visit New Zealand.

NO SHIT ?!

Is it illegal in China?!

then, why the fuck I saw so many in Shanghai???? and they speak Chinese and tell me that they are from SiChuan....

I believe that's one of your cities, isn't it???

Fucking illegal..then why you Chinese men still fuck them, then? Why your girls still sell on the street then?!  the cheapest one only costs 300 Yuan..and by the way, I did give her 300 but I only asked her to give me massage....(here, I mean some Chinese..not all are hookers...I am a very rational person....)

Shit, of course, NZ government has to make hookers legal because of human rights and we also have very clear law to regulate that industry.....I am not a professional lawyer but at least I know there is 397 pieces of Law on hookers in NZ.....NZ Hookers are actually safer than those sluts who always play one-night-stand, virgin boy!

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Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-01-30 09:19:43
I was a prolocutor for our education system and the communist party in your comment, did I say it I was?  
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Prolocutor is a stupid word to use....

And I think I can kind of guess what you mean...well, you may not an Ass-kisser to the Communist.....however, you do sound like one...
Monica1981的个人空间 删除 Monica1981 发布于2008-01-30 09:13:27
Welcome, moron....

1,

Have I said that how good Chinese educational system anywhere is to Kathy?

I also never said you said that....
I only said if Kathy thinks your education system sucks, she should say so...

So you are the real one who is disordered..sadly....

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What the started point is she should to take a felicitous way to face the problem in our educational system, then take some improving action at her site with what the shortcomings she have found and what she can carry out for now, instead of being a politician who is making the shit stump speech with her foreign audiences.


I also have said she has been improving her teaching all the time....so why don't you tell us what have you done for China, uh?

If her audience is us, what the fuck you are here for then???? So it is really up to us to determine whether her talking is shit .....not you, moron!

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Did you both have heard that the democratic party member complains about with Chinese or New Zealand that how sucked policies the republican party constituted then asks for us give him a helping hand to cast Bush down?

What the fuck?!

Can you re-arrange your sentence.....only homeschooled people write a mess of shit like you...

I can't even understand your horrible English...so can't argue for this one....

2,

Have I said I love Communist Party anywhere when I was arguing with Kathy?

Okay, maybe you didn't.....but you do sound like a home-schooled person so really have to balme yourself for the way you talk.....


I just told her to be a person who should has the country concept whenever and wherever she is being. How poor understanding ability you have!. Do you have the country concept?  I felt I tell you what country concept is a foolish topic. As your father has been a Macao, But now he is a Kiwi, and pays taxes to this emigrated country, did I get wrong with it? Who’s the chief in your country? Is Anand or Helen? Or Elizabeth? Why did you get a stadholder by your voting, but he needs to be appointed by Elizabeth who is the queen in faraway England.
It does mean if you call the hosts as PaPa and MaMa when you visit other family, does it not?
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Ohhh.....just because we don't agree with your fucked up idea so someone here is going to attack the whole nation of NZ now...

What a fucking loser!

Honestly, babe...you don't know us...so you 'd better shup the fuck up and listen....

NZ is an idenpendent country and you should ask every single person on the street if he/she give fuck to England or not....once you get the answer, you come back to argue with me on this point....

The Britain Empire no longer existed for years and I am so shocked that you don't even know...but of course, we can't expect a home-schooled person know much, can we?

Last time when the Queen asked us to help in Iraq...we gave her a figure, baby....
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It seems I was a prolocutor for our education system and the communist party in your comment, did I say it I was?  What a fucked up logic you have!

Don't get in a hurry to critisize my logic... make your sentence proper for me to read FIRST...

Geez, your English is so fucking horrible....so get your fucked-up mind sorted and then write clearly next time.....
ray123的个人空间 删除 ray123 发布于2008-01-29 23:20:22
If you think he/she should, ten who imposed this fucked-up idea in your fucking brain, uh?
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Oh hot chick, when I read here, I feel you have turned very hysterical, it seems you nearly shouted:” I am coming!”
Ok! I would like to follow your heels with the same rhythm.

Is that your Helen who have the right to refuse Bush’s order when Bush’s asked your Helen to send you guys to kill Iraqi people?
My god, yes!
Is that you who give the right to Helen to refuse Bush rubbish when he asks your Helen to make a good fuck together?
Is that you who give the right to Helen to build so many power dams so that serve you 80% power demand and who have the right to drum up protecting environment?

Is that you Kiwi who have the right to get an England queen?
Is that you mean country guiding you kiwi who have the right to clime the trees like a monkey, but a Chinese can not do it in your shit country?


Is that you and you brad who have the right to hook fishes, and make them to be your delicious food,  then you can tell whole world with your burps that we should not kill any animals?
Is that you guys who have the right to pay the taxes to your government but who just get salary from their company and is complaining so much for his government?
Is that you who have the right to feed the dogs well but never care for those hungry kids in Kenya?

Is that you who have the right to ask your guys to wear condom so that kill the kids?
Is that your parents and you who give the right to break into Maori’s homestead?
Is that you parents and you who give the right to Helen to open so many whoredoms so that you men release their aggressive hormone?
Is that you guys who have the right to get laid with a hooker then awake up all you people to know AIDS?
Is that you stupid parents who have told you that you have the right to show a good “fuck you” to your kids?
Is that you stupid parents who have told you that you have the right to go anywhere but you idiot just have a passport?


Who give your parent the right that you and your brother have some Chinese blood?
Who give your parent and you the right to be kiwi with some Chinese blood?
Who give you the right to be thrown away by your many ex-BFs?
Who give you the right to measure their size for your every ex-BF?
Who give you the right to bring Brad so many green caps?

Don’t you know you have been treated as a joke domestic
Chick!
All in all, now let’s call it an all-in-all, just to prove you what a brain you have with below other reasons:
In your blog, I found you didn’t know how to make a fully article so you left so many comments for yourself when you got done for an article.
Above just proves that you have a broken brain!
One more, I found you have not a little of sense of humour at all. So many slangs you used that didn’t make any funny at all.


Some day maybe I will be back to you. Perhaps I will leave you alone even if we have ever made a perfect gallant, because you are not special one at all except you seemed as same as a lady who is in the oestrum and make the calls for his man every now and then.
But you will miss me and under the moon from now on!
So you can keep on to leave your soulful calls in my meaningless blog. Maybe I will be back again.
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